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Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby viking » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:36 pm

As per the last 4 years, a noob Lower Salmon River run is planned late March or early April. At a gala event including a Jack Daniels fountain, dancing girls, and F-16 flyovers, royalty payments will be dispersed from our blockbuster video filmed during the 2017 noob run. Payment amount and currency type not yet known.

Depending on weather, flow, and Jupiter's orbit. Start at Pittsburgh landing and/or Heller Bar, meet at confluence, then run up the Salmon to approximately White Bird. This is roughly 75-80 miles each way. Gas will be stashed at White Bird to help everybody make the round trip. Overnight on river two nights probably.

If the flow is right, this run is reasonably Noob-friendly, but is not for the absolute beginner. If you have zero experience reading water, running medium big water, or have a severe knifey bow, then this run probably isn't for you. Most any inboard with a windshield and top will work. (An outboard with some hp will also work maybe.) A billion $ boat is not required. Frankenboats are welcome. For more info, search this forum for prior Lower Salmon Noob runs. Best noob flow is something like 8K to 15K CFS White Bird gauge. However, noobs have run successfully at much higher flow. See discussions from prior years on this forum.

If you also do one of the organized club runs in April (from Spring Bar east of Riggins), then you'll be familiar with about half the river between the confluence and Corn Creek. This will be helpful if you also decide to do the Corn Creek to confluence Noob round trip (approx June 1).

Less than 6 months to go! Snow is already accumulating!

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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby tjmp111 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:48 pm

Where do i sign up?
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby lovetheedge » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:13 pm

count me again.
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby chariotdriver » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:33 am

lovetheedge wrote:count me again.


Me too!

How is the forecast looking? Thanks for getting the ball rolling as well.
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby viking » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:35 am

Current snowpack is 7 times normal. 34 times normal in upper panhandle. Hopefully this trend continues.

https://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/ftpref/data/water/wcs/gis/maps/id_swepctnormal_update.pdf
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby smitty » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:08 am

So:

If I've only listened to Beth Hart and carry cold, salted leftover spaghetti to eat and hope that my pantograph wipers make up for my lack of an inducer, is it reasonable to expect that I have a high probability of finding the bottom of the river?

A person need not answer that if it makes them uncomfortable. Since I don't have a shop, my boat may be encased in glacial ice (Spokane in late March / Early April) so this may be moot.

Although, dad might be able to shuttle fuel to Hammer Creek... his truck will haul more gas vessels than my Pathfinder
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby smitty » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:25 am

Dad and viking, camped just below Eye of the Needle, this fall, lower HC run
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby viking » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:19 am

Snow > 200% normal for this date. Full season behavior is below. Last year's snow actually wasn't much different from average. But it seems like there was a lot of rain as the snow came off, so flooding happened.

https://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/ftpref/data/water/wcs/basinsweplots/id/salmon_swe_d.gif

A new ice age has commenced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby cbc7 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:30 am

So no global warming anymore?
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby chariotdriver » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:33 pm

cbc7 wrote:So no global warming anymore?


Global warming is out. The alarmists went with climate change then still couldn't forecast with any accuracy........now it's climate disruption. Covers anything with open ended blame.
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby viking » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:23 am

Less than 3 months to go! Woo hoo! Reserve your spot today!
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby smitty » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:25 am

chariotdriver wrote:
cbc7 wrote:So no global warming anymore?


Global warming is out. The alarmists went with climate change then still couldn't forecast with any accuracy........now it's climate disruption. Covers anything with open ended blame.


If it is a result of burning fossil fuels: when was the last time anyone saw a Boeing 737 go through emissions? chariotdriver, we trust that you will enlighten us
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby smitty » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:27 am

viking wrote:Less than 3 months to go! Woo hoo! Reserve your spot today!

If Spokane weather allows me to make my boat ready in time, I'll be there as the most annoying noobiest noob.... ever
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby work2play » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:12 pm

I'd like to go, been down that stretch of the river in a raft quite a few times. :rowing: never up in a jet :chicken:
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby tjmp111 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:35 pm

How do we reserve a spot?
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby viking » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:04 am

Just show up. Coordinate with others embarking from your preferred launch (Heller Bar or Pittsburgh landing). Probably start with around 80 gallons of fuel. More is better, unless you end up overloaded.
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby tjmp111 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:28 pm

Who is starting from Heller? Do ypu have an exact date yet?
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby viking » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:53 pm

No exact date. Unfortunately it will depend on flow, which needs to be noob-friendly. Predictions are not yet possible. Clarity may begin a couple weeks into March.
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby chariotdriver » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:41 am

tjmp111 wrote:Who is starting from Heller? Do ypu have an exact date yet?


At least myself with a sister boat.
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Re: Lower Salmon Noobs 2018

Postby tjmp111 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:44 am

We shpuld keep in touch.
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